Other CODE QUOTE: Lennart Poettering

[vermaden]

Lennart Poettering is 'famous' for creating pulseaudio stack, here is a commit from his latest 'art' named systemd.

+ log_warning("/usr appears to be on a different file system than /. This is not supported anymore. "
+             "Some things will probably break (sometimes even silently) in mysterious ways.");

COMMIT: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/...c2b53a3ca8c2fa

[Carpetsmoker]

Huh? What?

[BSDfan666]

The author of that has stated publicly that systemd will only run on Linux.

[rocket357]

Originally Posted by BSDfan666

The author of that has stated publicly that systemd will only run on Linux.

Oh thank God. That's a relief.

[Carpetsmoker]

Maybe we should start a petition to keep it that way.

[phoenix]

Hrm, okay, so it's for Linux only. Raise your hands, how many of you create Linux installs with /usr as a separate filesystem? Probably most, if not all, of you.

It's almost as if developers today don't understand the differences between /bin, /usr/bin, and /usr/local/bin.

A system should be able to boot to single-user mode without touching anything under /usr.

A system should be able to boot to multi-user mode, in a non-GUI mode, without touching anything under /usr.

Going graphical, /usr/* is fair game.

Alas, it's almost like Linux devs are being taught by Windows devs (everything under C:\Windows aka everything under /usr).

[TerryP]

It's the mentality. Few distributions have any distinction between the base system and the crap you throw on, even PC-BSD ha shad problems with that over the years. Being lazy, I tend to use $HOME/Software on Linux because I don't trust them not to screw up /usr/local.

[ephemera]

I don't get it. Are we missing something here?
If it really is what it looks like what the hell is the guy thinking? :-P

[Carpetsmoker]

It appears that having /usr/ as a filesystem is sort of broken anyway on Linux. See below discussion:
http://lwn.net/Articles/429695/#Comments

So unfortunately the problem isn't localized to pulseaudio.

[TerryP]

Looking at it, I think systemd is actually an improvement, a bit over engineered perhaps but hey, it's basically System V init, the version 21st century version. So that doesn't count.

Interesting thread, and shows how well thought out the linux file system has become, doesn't it? Especially http://lwn.net/Articles/430887/

[Carpetsmoker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

Original author(s) Lennart Poettering

[ephemera]

Hmm, so the guy had his reasons.
Since I use Linux as a desktop my disk is partitioned into / & /home ... its simple & saves space.

Haven't used Solaris for a long time but i think a separate /usr was discouraged in the Solaris camp as well.

Phoenix, whats the advantage of having a separate /usr?

[Carpetsmoker]

More background info:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software...-usr-is-broken

[BSDfan666]

Linux is borked.