random OS comparisons

[barti]

What amazes me is how much freebsd is an unknown beast.


So much unknown and such a beast.


Full and complete operating system, far better then Linux, and many people
never heard of it.

[barti]

"If 386BSD had been available when I started on Linux, Linux would probably never had happened."

Linus Torvalds

http://serverfault.com/questions/363...pular-than-bsd

[angryfirelord]

Originally Posted by barti

http://serverfault.com/questions/363...pular-than-bsd

True, but if Hurd or Minix had matured, that would've been the case as well. The whole point of Linus releasing Linux was to have a Unix-like system on the 386. Funny thing though is that today, Hurd isn't vaporware anymore and has incorporated a lot of drivers from the 2.6.32 Linux kernel. In fact, there was a statement last year from Debian about creating a Hurd release for Debian Wheezy. Minix in addition had a lot of utilities replaced with applications from NetBSD.

[vermaden]

Originally Posted by angryfirelord

Hurd isn't vaporware anymore and has incorporated a lot of drivers from the 2.6.32 Linux kernel. In fact, there was a statement last year from Debian about creating a Hurd release for Debian Wheezy. Minix in addition had a lot of utilities replaced with applications from NetBSD.

Thats probably because both Hurd and Linux are GPL and both Minix and NetBSD use BSD license

[barti]

It's about the feeling of ownership. Linux is free and open in every way. Linux belongs to everyone. Just using Linux makes one feel like part of the community. BSD, despite its license, is "owned" by small groups of control freaks with limited visions. They don't really want you to be a part of their group because you are inferior and you might mess up their code.

From what I read on the net, the new versions of the Linux kernel is indeed a mess.

[daemonfowl]

lol , Mr Barti's waging an OS war .. how funny it turns as we -newbies- start the flame .. hehe .. well, true hackers know which is which .. why .. how .. so they approach issues like these with care or with zen silence ..
barti , I've always loved Linux for specific purposes :
Linux4astro --> astronomy
Poseidon Linux (based on PcLinuxOS) ---> oceanography
wattOS ---> youtube !!!! . old machines ..
Backtrack ---> (sadly now based on ubuntu) sec/
ZenEdu --> education
plamo/doudou/eduknoppix etc ---> children
plus numerous localized Gnu-Linuxes ... plus many other Xfuncion or Xpurpose Gnu-Linuxes
a need .. a passion .. a legacy .. a course of events .. digital karma :-)

[ocicat]

This thread has been split from its parent:

http://www.daemonforums.org/showthread.php?t=7296

...as conversation was moving away from discussing OpenBSD window managers & more towards comparisons to Linux.

barti, I suspect you are attempting to understand the different culture found in the *BSD world as opposed to what you saw in the Linux world, & you are trying to put all the inconsistencies together. You would be doing yourself a greater favor if you would try to organize your thoughts more carefully into a more discernible narrative before posting.

It would also help your readers try to understand what is most fundamentally important to you at this time.

[Carpetsmoker]

The HURD is just a big pile of fail. Even more than most other GNU projects.

Minix 3 actually looks quite nice. Unlike earlier Minix versions, it's not just a research system anymore but aimed to be a "real" desktop/server OS.
I'd like to explore it someday, but these days my computer playtime is pretty limited ...

Here's a video of Andrew Tanenbaum explaining Minix 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx3KuE7UjGA